tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post6327308755730454702..comments2024-03-28T03:06:56.796-07:00Comments on Prairiebreak: A cup of claret to cheer the season....Christmassy cactiPanayoti Kelaidishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01846898350006673316noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-4453924362407549082012-12-22T12:38:06.703-08:002012-12-22T12:38:06.703-08:00You summed things up better than me: I have glosse...You summed things up better than me: I have glossed the everchanging taxonomy--and largely ignored it. I see a difference between most coccineus and trigs--but not sure what to make of gurneyi and now there's the Grand Canyon one--sheeesh! I would like a pure yellow!Panayoti Kelaidishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01846898350006673316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-67875297597743764642012-12-21T19:37:45.482-08:002012-12-21T19:37:45.482-08:00Apparently there are some problems when it comes t...Apparently there are some problems when it comes to using DNA as a means for distinguishing species. Anderson's work relied on it, from http://iosweb.org/, yet his treatment of Echinocereus differs from that of Flora of North America. How can that be? <br />I have at least 30 forms of Echinocereus coccineus/triglochidiatus here, some even grown from seed. None of them look like another,except that they're round and have spines.Bob / the miserable gardenerhttp://paridevita.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-896858988768190972012-12-21T04:46:12.034-08:002012-12-21T04:46:12.034-08:00I'm with you Bob. And, you can throw all the ...I'm with you Bob. And, you can throw all the cactus into that barrel along with Yuccas and Agaves. What good is it to argue about taxonomy when we all know now that the only definitive method for distinguishing species is through DNA analysis. And, besides, we gardeners are mostly interested in form and color rather than taxonomic labels. Jim BorlandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-30409031859314238892012-12-20T20:49:00.058-08:002012-12-20T20:49:00.058-08:00They're probably all best treated as "red...They're probably all best treated as "reddish flowered cactus". The constant name-changing is dizzying, to say the least.<br />Benson considered E. coccineus to be synonymous with E. trig., and called the plant with curving spines E. trig. var. mojavensis, which Anderson considered a valid species, E. mojavensis. <br />Anderson said that the difference between E. coccineus and E. trig. is that the former has broadly funnelform flowers, and the latter has tubular funnelform flowers. <br />Flora of North America says that E. coccineus is polyploid, that E. polyacanthus is a form of it, and that E. trig.is diploid, and that the unusually large White Sands forms shrink to normal size when grown in gardens, which is fiction. <br />I couldn't even make this stuff up if I tried. <br />The best solution is to buy every plant you find, grow a lot from seed, and call them whatever sounds right at the time. <br />I hear there are forms with white flowers, forms with yellow flowers, two-toned flowers, etc. The pink ones are nice too. <br />Can't have too many of these in the garden, that's for sure.Bob / the miserable gardenerhttp://paridevita.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-56128738137395279062012-12-20T11:41:39.590-08:002012-12-20T11:41:39.590-08:00I think I have a few E. gonacanthus, not the White...I think I have a few E. gonacanthus, not the White Sands form of E. tri...now, I think I get it! Never have seen anything as large as those E. coccineus by Moab or in Grand Jct; ours and mine all smaller, rarely over 12" wide mounds. Toasting back to you with some Abq clarets, PK.David C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16897398037657414471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-39949024618992974682012-12-19T21:30:02.898-08:002012-12-19T21:30:02.898-08:00Yes, Loree...sorry I forget to look and see what t...Yes, Loree...sorry I forget to look and see what the auto fill is calling me. It seems to be different on each blog for some reason.danger gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227500551609537140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-84243010002206541132012-12-19T21:01:27.872-08:002012-12-19T21:01:27.872-08:00I couldnt agree more (Loree?)! I couldnt agree more (Loree?)! Panayoti Kelaidishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01846898350006673316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134648325048818615.post-69093781349124750442012-12-19T09:01:29.869-08:002012-12-19T09:01:29.869-08:00I'd take one of those over a poinsettia any da...I'd take one of those over a poinsettia any day!danger gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227500551609537140noreply@blogger.com